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	Latin names of plants are often perceived as complicated, with many h and y. When we read Dioscorides, we are surprised by the freshness of text, and by the fact that his Greek names were in fact popular names. [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#alkaia\|'''Alcea''']] is simply "the helpful", [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#althaia\|'''althaea''']] "the healing". We discover that [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 1#akoron\|'''akoron''']] is ''Iris pseudacorus'', and that it was confused with ''Acorus calamus'' because both are aquatic plants giving a fragrant rhizome. Even more amusing, cleavers, ''Galium aparine'', if it bears not surprisingly the name [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#aparinê\|aparinê]], has as a synonym "the philanthropous", because it sticks to humans!		Latin names of plants are often perceived as complicated, with many h and y. When we read Dioscorides, we are surprised by the freshness of text, and by the fact that his Greek names were in fact popular names. [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#alkaia\|'''Alcea''']] is simply "the helpful", [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#althaia\|'''althaea''']] "the healing". We discover that [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 1#akoron\|'''akoron''']] is ''Iris pseudacorus'', and that it was confused with ''Acorus calamus'' because both are aquatic plants giving a fragrant rhizome. Even more amusing, cleavers, ''Galium aparine'', if it bears not surprisingly the name [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#aparinê\|aparinê]], has as a synonym "the philanthropous", because it sticks to humans!

	In brief, many details to rejoice all those interested in plant names, or looking for scholarly anecdotes. As Pl@ntUse is a collaborative site, don't hesitate to propose translations if you are a hellenist, or to ask for them on a case by case basis. You can also help translating pages ~~forme~~ French to English.		In brief, many details to rejoice all those interested in plant names, or looking for scholarly anecdotes. As Pl@ntUse is a collaborative site, don't hesitate to propose translations if you are a hellenist, or to ask for them on a case by case basis. You can also help translating pages from French to English.

	{{right\|Michel Chauvet<br>3 avril 2014}}		{{right\|Michel Chauvet<br>3 avril 2014}}

	PS. Such pages complement the [[:fr:Noms grecs de Théophraste\|index of plants of Theophrastus]]. We could also think about the works of Galen, Hippocrates or Arabic authors. But this will be quite another task.		PS. Such pages complement the [[:fr:Noms grecs de Théophraste\|index of plants of Theophrastus]]. We could also think about the works of Galen, Hippocrates or Arabic authors. But this will be quite another task.

WikiSysop at 14:47, 10 April 2014

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	The [[:fr:Dioscoride: Introduction et commentaires\|Greek text of ''Materia Medica'']] by [[:fr:Dioscoride\|Dioscorides]] (1st century of our era) is now available on Pl@ntUse ! Well, it can only be read by hellenists, but titles have been added with a transcription in latin script, as well as partial translations by Suzanne Amigues and identifications.		The [[:fr:Dioscoride: Introduction et commentaires\|Greek text of ''Materia Medica'']] by [[:fr:Dioscoride\|Dioscorides]] (1st century of our era) is now available on Pl@ntUse ! Well, it can only be read by hellenists, but titles have been added with a transcription in latin script, as well as partial translations by Suzanne Amigues and identifications.

	Curiously, no French translation is known since [[:fr:Mattioli, Pierandrea\|~~Matthiole~~]] (1572). Today, we can buy two translations in German, two in English and one in Spanish. Comparing them shows that they have been published by hellenists who made no effort in updating identifications. As for botanists, it seems they ~~are~~ no longer interested ~~with~~ Dioscorides, since Sprengel and Fraas in the 19th century.		Curiously, no French translation is known since [[:fr:Mattioli, Pierandrea\|Mattioli]] (1572). Today, we can buy two translations in German, two in English and one in Spanish. Comparing them shows that they have been published by hellenists who made no effort in updating identifications. As for botanists, it seems they have no longer been interested in Dioscorides, since Sprengel and Fraas in the 19th century.

	Nevertheless, the work of Dioscorides is indispensable to anybody interested in the history of botany. It was quite the sole base of botanical knowledge throughout the Middle-Ages, and Renaissance botanists ~~have~~ constantly translated and commented ~~Dioscorided~~ (Theophrastus was only rediscovered during the Renaissance).		Nevertheless, the work of Dioscorides is indispensable to anybody interested in the history of botany. It was quite the sole base of botanical knowledge throughout the Middle-Ages, and Renaissance botanists constantly translated and commented Dioscorides (Theophrastus was only rediscovered during the Renaissance).

	As a result, most Dioscorides' names are to be found in botanical names in latin. Any [[:fr:Dictionnaire étymologique\|etymological dictionary]] should then go back to Dioscorides. Pl@ntUse will endeavour to do it in time.		As a result, most Dioscorides' names are to be found in botanical names in latin. Any [[:fr:Dictionnaire étymologique\|etymological dictionary]] should then go back to Dioscorides. Pl@ntUse will endeavour to do it in time.

	Latin names of plants are often perceived as complicated, with many h and y. When we read Dioscorides, we are surprised by the freshness of text, and by the fact that his Greek names were in fact popular names. [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#alkaia\|'''Alcea''']] is simply "the helpful", [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#althaia\|'''althaea''']] "the healing". We discover that [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 1#akoron\|'''akoron''']] is ''Iris pseudacorus'', and that it was confused with ''Acorus calamus'' because both are aquatic plants giving a fragrant rhizome. Even more amusing, cleavers ''Galium aparine'', if it bears not surprisingly the name [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#aparinê\|aparinê]], has as a synonym "the philanthropous", because it sticks to humans!		Latin names of plants are often perceived as complicated, with many h and y. When we read Dioscorides, we are surprised by the freshness of text, and by the fact that his Greek names were in fact popular names. [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#alkaia\|'''Alcea''']] is simply "the helpful", [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#althaia\|'''althaea''']] "the healing". We discover that [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 1#akoron\|'''akoron''']] is ''Iris pseudacorus'', and that it was confused with ''Acorus calamus'' because both are aquatic plants giving a fragrant rhizome. Even more amusing, cleavers, ''Galium aparine'', if it bears not surprisingly the name [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#aparinê\|aparinê]], has as a synonym "the philanthropous", because it sticks to humans!

	In brief, many details to rejoice all those interested in plant names, or looking for scholarly anecdotes. As Pl@ntUse is a collaborative site, don't hesitate to propose translations if you are a hellenist, or to ask for them on a case by case basis. You can also help translating pages forme French to English.		In brief, many details to rejoice all those interested in plant names, or looking for scholarly anecdotes. As Pl@ntUse is a collaborative site, don't hesitate to propose translations if you are a hellenist, or to ask for them on a case by case basis. You can also help translating pages forme French to English.

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The [[:fr:Dioscoride: Introduction et commentaires|Greek text of ''Materia Medica'']] by [[:fr:Dioscoride|Dioscorides]] (1st century of our era) is now available on Pl@ntUse ! Well, it can only be read by hellenists, but titles have been added with a transcription in latin script, as well as partial translations by Suzanne Amigues and identifications.

Curiously, no French translation is known since [[:fr:Mattioli, Pierandrea|Matthiole]] (1572). Today, we can buy two translations in German, two in English and one in Spanish. Comparing them shows that they have been published by hellenists who made no effort in updating identifications. As for botanists, it seems they are no longer interested with Dioscorides, since Sprengel and Fraas in the 19th century.

Nevertheless, the work of Dioscorides is indispensable to anybody interested in the history of botany. It was quite the sole base of botanical knowledge throughout the Middle-Ages, and Renaissance botanists have constantly translated and commented Dioscorided (Theophrastus was only rediscovered during the Renaissance).

As a result, most Dioscorides' names are to be found in botanical names in latin. Any [[:fr:Dictionnaire étymologique|etymological dictionary]] should then go back to Dioscorides. Pl@ntUse will endeavour to do it in time.

Latin names of plants are often perceived as complicated, with many h and y. When we read Dioscorides, we are surprised by the freshness of text, and by the fact that his Greek names were in fact popular names. [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#alkaia|'''Alcea''']] is simply "the helpful", [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#althaia|'''althaea''']] "the healing". We discover that [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 1#akoron|'''akoron''']] is ''Iris pseudacorus'', and that it was confused with ''Acorus calamus'' because both are aquatic plants giving a fragrant rhizome. Even more amusing, cleavers ''Galium aparine'', if it bears not surprisingly the name [[:fr:Dioscoride: livre 3#aparinê|aparinê]], has as a synonym "the philanthropous", because it sticks to humans!

In brief, many details to rejoice all those interested in plant names, or looking for scholarly anecdotes. As Pl@ntUse is a collaborative site, don't hesitate to propose translations if you are a hellenist, or to ask for them on a case by case basis. You can also help translating pages forme French to English.

{{right|Michel Chauvet<br>3 avril 2014}}

PS. Such pages complement the [[:fr:Noms grecs de Théophraste|index of plants of Theophrastus]]. We could also think about the works of Galen, Hippocrates or Arabic authors. But this will be quite another task.